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I'm on amd64 and the other solution of installing the 32bit version of FireFox is a fine work around.
The KDE4 version of Konqueror can also happily use the 32bit plugin. Even so, Adobe does need to add 64bit support across all operating systems - even Windows users have started noticing that lack :-) I honestly can not fathom why it is so hard to compile a 64bit version of a plugin/application. Having to kill the browser about once an hour because of a plugin is a pain.
Hi Scott.
The Linux Player team made a very detailed post about 'why it is so hard' here http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/whats_so_difficult_64bit_editi.html Tom, thanks for the post you point us to. But it is 18 months old.
Nowadays, almost every new desktop processor sold is amd64 enabled. It might be hard but not *this* hard, and they will need to compile it for 64bits anyway in the future as 64bits is becoming the norm. So why not focus on it now ? Laurent - I agree !
I've got a 64bit desktop at work, a 64bit server at home and my next laptop will be 64bit too. the 32bit Player seems a lot more stable on those than it seems to be on your box, however. It would be VERY nice to have a 64-bit native Flash Player on Linux. NSPluginwrapper is very unstable and the free alternatives, while functional, aren't as good or complete as the "real thing".
My new laptop is a dual core machine with 4GB of RAM. In order to address it all, I *HAVE* to use 64-bit Linux. I believe the problem is the same on the Windows platform, though Microsoft has hidden the issue some in their latest Vista patches. Many folks using other Adobe products have very "big" machines with lots of processing power and memory. The new Photoshop will be available in a 64-bit version, providing performance gains and all the other benefits of the 64-bit platform. These people are likely going to use other products on these machines, one of which is almost certainly a web browser and the Adobe Flash Player. I understand this is not a trivial change, and I understand it is a change that cannot necessarily be made quickly. But I feel it is a "high" priority change to make and it should be addressed as quickly as possible. 64 bit is where the the rest of your product line, as well as the overall computing market, is heading. I install Linux thin client networks in nonprofits. Being able to use 64-bit machines would enable me to utilize the memory I have more effectively- and to be able to support more people, however not having a stable Flash solution on 64-bit is a real barrier to being to switch to 64-bit. Probably, the last remaining barrier we have.
I sincerely hope that a 64-bit version of the Flash plug-in is coming. You as the the Linux community can help to make this happen.
The missing piece to get to 64-bit support is fully open source (like any Mozilla project tri-licensed as MPL/GPL/LGPL), part of the Tamarin project: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/ The source code repository is here: http://hg.mozilla.org/tamarin-central/ If you track the change lists you can see that the support for the Win64 ABI is being worked on. What is missing is support for the 64-bit Linux/BSD ABIs. As this project is fully open source this could be done by any knowledgeable person in the community. This would also help the Mozilla/Firefox project in general. Like Patrick Rady, I also install Linux thin clients. I have hundreds of users on large servers.
Applets can be run now on the openJDK which has a 64bit java plugin. The only piece missing is 64bit flash. I'm sure it's not just a compile away, but we've been waiting patiently for a long time. One more thing, the title of this issue should be "x86_64 support needed in Linux". AMD64 and Intel's Core 2 are both x86_64 capable. Chaps, we need this on Linux. Silverlight (via Moonlight) will end up being the replacement for developers on this platform if we don't see any movement.
How about making a program that installs the i386 version on amd64 systems? That would be a great replacement for the native amd64, while it's being made!
Danut - such a program (ndiswrapper) already exists. Some distributions of Linux may even notice you've installed a 32bit plugin and call ndiswrapper for you.
I here it works well. Yes, that solution exists. Ubuntu, for example, the first time you visit a site that requires flash, Firefox (modded by Ubuntu) will ask you if you want to install Gnash or the proprietary flash player.
But... Thats not whats being asked here. It's like saying we don't need any programs in Linux, as we can run windows ones on wine. The point is we need a 64 bit version that runs WELL on our systems (the ndiswrapper solution is quite unstable). Using 32 bit Firefox, or using ndiswrapper is not a real solution. Totally agree with Ignacio last post. So, could Adobe answer when we can get the 64 bit version? Or at least an alpha version of the 64 bit plugin?
Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) absolutely needs a 64-bit Flash plugin.
Can we get some kind of comment from Adobe on this? On all 3 of my computers, Adobe Flash and Reader have been among my most unstable software. My customers, too many of them told me the same.
The issue in this bug-report only further convinces me that ADOBE IS THE NEW MICROSOFT: once they got enough of a monopoly, webmasters just kept using their cr*ppy software because "everyone else uses it, and people of average computer-literacy already downloaded it BECAUSE all other webmasters use it, so I should use it too". MY MESSAGE TO ADOBE: These types of things just make you look incompetent. Unless Adobe lets the Linux Community fix this (or Adobe fixes it itself), and until they get Flash and Reader more stable, I've simply urged webmasters to give up the PDF format, and did so myself for the most part: I wasn't saving THAT much bandwidth on most docs to justify the number of unhappy customers who can't download PDF's (often because they don't understand that when the highly-unstable Reader frequently BSOD's their computers, you need to reinstall it...often, which becomes a pain in the *ss) and in this age of 1.5Mbps internet, the bandwidth is so cheap I stopped condensing files into PDF's...less headaches from customers, saved me time (money). but moving away from the Flash format would be more difficult...the ideal for the rest of us in computer-land would be if Adobe simply shaped up their sh*t. Sincerely, the disgruntled engineer This is just in ! Flash available for linux x86_64 !
http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/11/now_supporting_16_exabytes.html Oh and thanks all for voting and commenting here, it looks like it helped. From the FAQ: Why aren't the Windows and Mac 64-bit alpha versions available on Adobe Labs? Release of this alpha version of 64-bit Flash Player on Linux is the first step in delivering upon Adobe's commitment to make Flash Player native 64-bit across platforms. We chose Linux as our initial platform in response to numerous requests in our public Flash Player bug and issue management system and the fact that Linux distributions do not ship with a 32-bit browser or a comprehensive 32-bit emulation layer by default. Until this prerelease, use of 32-bit Flash Player on Linux has required the use of a plugin wrapper, which prevents full compatibility with 64-bit browsers. With this prelease, Flash Player 10 is now a full native participant on 64-bit Linux distributions. We are committed to bringing native 64-bit Flash Player to Windows and Mac in future prereleases. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/faq.html#flashplayer10FAQ_64-bit08 Unbelievable! They did it! After 5 years waiting! I'm going to test it right now. Thanks for the alpha version! Finally!
Well, youtube works very well with Firefox 3.0.4.
Tom's games works too. Buddypoke (from Orkut) works only on the third reload (but it's probably not flash plugin's fault). Yahoo live works, but with some issues (I use uvcvideo). There's a message saying: "Camera unavailable. May be in use by another application". Anyway, I can see my image from cam. But maybe flash (or yahoo) has some bug... Other sites like dailymotion, metacafe, vimeo etc work perfectly! The only issue I noticed is regarding some characters with accents like á, é, í etc. I thought Flash used utf-8, but it seems to have a problem with this types of chars. Thanks. That's great news!!! I can't believe the ticket I've created on the bug tracker actually had an effect. Anyway, it would have been great if the Adobe Guys used this system as it should be. This ticket has an "Open" status, while it should have been "In progress" until now and something like "Fix released" since today.
Working great. Some videos don't show when embedded on other sites such as youtube clips. Some sites make firefox crash like verizon wireless.
Absolutely great. Minor issues as expected, but native flash! I am glad I voted for this bug a while ago. I am glad my vote helped. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Feature Request
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AMD64 support needed in Linux
The only way to resolve it is to restart Firefox.
This is *so* annoying that I switched from Flash to Gnash, a free implementation of the Flash Player. Gnash is not perfect as it can't play every swf out there, but it does not stop working after some time and I don't need to restart Firefox 10 times a day anymore.
We *need* a 64bits version (amd64) of the Flash Player on GNU/Linux.